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Raymand
Hi
I like to upgrade TS from 6.1.0 to 6.5. I don't want to un-install TS6.1.0 just I want to stop TS6.1.0 and run TS6.5 installation Setup. So that As per TS installation document it suppose to upgrade to TS6.5. Did anyone tried this way? I didn't install any services packs for TS6.1.0
OS : Solaris 8
TS version: TS6.1.0
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gzevin
RTFM first, then ask questions if unclear
Greg Zevin, Ph.D. Comp. Sc.
Independent Interwoven Consultant/Architect
Sydney, AU
IwovHeather
If you have never performed an upgrade or installation before, you may also want to contact Interwoven Technical Support. They can point you to KB articles and answer any additional questions you have about upgrading TS.
Thanks,
Heather
ccprofessional
RTFR is more like it.. make sure you read the release notes
Migrateduser
I am so tired of "RTFM ", if you don't have anything helpfull to give to the poster then please do not reply. They are asking for help and the manual may not have helped them. After all, if everyone who RTFM remembered or understood absolutely everything in the manual then this discussion site would be visited alot less. There will always be people of different capabilities and experience visiting this site and RTFM doesn't help them.
nipper
I am so tired of "RTFM
Get used to it.
RTFM is a perfectly good answer to a general question that is well documented. This question
is well documented. If the person DID read the manual, and did not understand it, then they
should as a more detailed question
People do not learn squat unless they try it themselves and look here for help.
Migrateduser
If you would have read his question you would notice that he asked if anyone had "tried it this way". He just wanted to know if anyone had did it a little differently.
The worlds rude enough without adding more rudeness to it.
Adam Stoller
There will always be differing of opinions.
I believe that RTFM is a reasonable answer if:
The originator gives no indication of having tried to find the information in the manuals
The question is basic in concept and/or clearly something that could be found in the manuals
Additional information is provided about
which
manual(s) to read and
what
term(s) to search for
The tone of the response is "positive" as opposed to "negative"
A pointer to the correct manual and search term
is
(IMO) a productive response to a question, leaving ample opportunity for the thread to be followed-up with quotes from the manual and further questions regarding the interpretation of that information (or the lack of finding anything useful despite having tried to find it)
One could easily paraphrase your post so that it reads:
I'm so tired of people complaining about posts suggesting "RTFM", if you don't have anything helpfull[sic] to give the poster then please do not reply.
In fact, your post could be rated even
less
useful because it provides
no
constructive suggestions for the originator of the thread.
(that being said, I do believe that a number of responses of RTFM are done without providing for a "positive" tone - which is unfortunate)
--fish
Senior Consultant, Quotient Inc.
http://www.quotient-inc.com
Migrateduser
ghoti, I have always liked most of your replies to post and agree with just about everything you said. I really agree with this statement.
" pointer to the correct manual and search term is (IMO) a productive response to a question, leaving ample opportunity for the thread to be followed-up with quotes from the manual and further questions regarding the interpretation of that information (or the lack of finding anything useful despite having tried to find it)
"
RTFM is so overused and abused, that it's mostly appears as a cop-out by the replier, especially when they don't point them to the manual. Defending someone who wishes to insult the poster with RTFM just doesn't feel like the right thing to do. Would you feel right telling your 6 year old kid that giving the finger is perfectly fine when someone cuts you off, because they deserved it. Nope, just bite your tongue and keep one driving, or don't post RTFM.
Man, I'm gonna generate alot of flaming responses for this one, maybe I should just give up, people are people and you just can't change them.
Adam Stoller
Looking back at the original question (which I didn't do before my last response) I'd have to agree with you - the question was posed with a description of what was being attempted and even with a reference to documentation - so "RTFM" without further scoping would seem to be an inappropriate response in this case.
Would you feel right telling your 6 year old kid ... maybe I should just give up, people are people and you just can't change them.
Well, at 6 the kid is probably a bit too old to be changed, prior to 4 I'm sure the kid was changed quite frequently ;-)
As to the original question (just to potentially get this thread back on the right track) - I personally do not recall doing a 6.1 to 6.5 upgrade. If Raymand still has questions about the verification of the steps considered - I'd suggest contacting Support for such verification.
--fish
Senior Consultant, Quotient Inc.
http://www.quotient-inc.com
Migrateduser
I am currently doing the same thing (only on Windows 2000). I do have SP2 and the patch installed for Teamsite. I plan on installing 6.5 on top of 6.1.
Page 46 of tst.650.install.win.pdf indicates that we should be able to upgrade from 6.1 with or without patches or Service Packs.
On another note I am going to try the database storage option (I am doing this upgrade in stall on a new server, so my original server will be unaffected) and see what happens. I'm going to try the MSSQL route.
I will let you know the results of my upgrade when complete.
Edited by taalgaard on 11/04/05 10:41 AM (server time).
gzevin
Well, we DO help memebers of this comminity. However we are also tired of such questions, when people do not take time to read all relevant docs prior to asking the questions. Or, as ghoti said, do provide more information.
Greg Zevin, Ph.D. Comp. Sc.
Independent Interwoven Consultant/Architect
Sydney, AU
Migrateduser
I followed the "upgrade" suggestions in the manual and the upgrade worked fine. Only one problem during the upgrade, I selected MSSQL as my Event Subsystem Database, created the database on my sql server, and entered in the proper connection info, has my driver ready and it didn't create any tables in the database. With no tables it wouldn't start the event subsystem or the search engine (search engine needs the event subsystem). Not sure why it didn' populate the tables, all my settings were correct. But, I found the sql script for the mssql server in the iw-home\eventsubsystem\conf\ddl folder. I ran it to populate the database and then was able to startup my event subsystem database on Windows 2000. You then have to add your brances to the search engine config files. After that the search engine took forever to index my branches but the search is now working.
Sor far, so good. When I'm ready to cut over the old server to the new I will have to uninstall 6.5, move over the backing store, and perform the upgrade to 6.5 and Teamsite search install all over again. The indexing should be okay to keep on the new system and should hopefully just pick up the new items after I re-install the Search Engine program.
In a large nutshell, that's how my upgrade has been going.