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TeamSite 6.7.1 Linux Recommended Hardware Specs?

Bill Klish

TeamSite 6.7.1
RedHat EL 4.0

I can't seem to find the recommended specs for 6.7.1 on Linux. I assume we should use the windows specs, but am wondering if there is something more specific out there.

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gzevin

TeamSite 6.7.1
RedHat EL 4.0

I can't seem to find the recommended specs for 6.7.1 on Linux. I assume we should use the windows specs, but am wondering if there is something more specific out there.

Remember, ONLY 32-bit servers are supported for Linux. Try to buy one on the market and let me know if you succeed.

jed

Remember, ONLY 32-bit servers are supported for Linux. Try to buy one on the market and let me know if you succeed.

AMD's x64 chips will run in 32 bit mode. I assume intel Xeon chips are the same.

As an example, I have no idea which version of Redhat TeamSite needs, but many of Sun's opteron boxes are certified on Redhat in 32 bit mode.
http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x4100/os.jsp#Red
http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x4200/os.jsp#Red

gzevin

AMD's x64 chips will run in 32 bit mode. I assume intel Xeon chips are the same.

As an example, I have no idea which version of Redhat TeamSite needs, but many of Sun's opteron boxes are certified on Redhat in 32 bit mode.
http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x4100/os.jsp#Red
http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x4200/os.jsp#Red

Actually, I am interested, whether IWOV will support running 32-bit OS on 64 bit hardware.

Because I know of one case (will not name names) where IWOV started to refuse support in such a mode, however it was on 6.1. So I would get this in writing.

Bill Klish

Thanks for the tips, we are still in the planning stages and may continue to stay with our Sun servers.

jed

Thanks for the tips, we are still in the planning stages and may continue to stay with our Sun servers.

An excellent choice! I think I'll do the same Smiley Happy

Migrateduser

TeamSite 6.7.1 supports RedHat AS/ES 4.0 on x86 systems. We will certify AMD64 systems in 6.7.1 SP1 which is targeted Q2/07. However as Jed pointed out that AMD's x64 chips will run in 32 bit mode. TS671 should work as well on such systems. Actually, we have conducted some preliminary testing on AMD64 systems and the result is promising.

Thanks,

Meili Zhong
Sr. Product Manager, WCM
Interwoven

Rounding Sample 11_2_a.pdf

gzevin

TeamSite 6.7.1 supports RedHat AS/ES 4.0 on x86 systems. We will certify AMD64 systems in 6.7.1 SP1 which is targeted Q2/07. However as Jed pointed out that AMD's x64 chips will run in 32 bit mode. TS671 should work as well on such systems. Actually, we have conducted some preliminary testing on AMD64 systems and the result is promising.

Thanks,

Meili Zhong
Sr. Product Manager, WCM
Interwoven

Meili,

'should work' is not an iron-clad wording. Will IWOV support 32-bit-mode running 64-bit servers for 6.7.1? I am not talking about 64-bit OS.

This is a very serious issue for my client, as you probably already know.

gzevin

An excellent choice! I think I'll do the same

..as if you had any choice Smiley Tongue

Migrateduser

As of now, we officially only support x86 systems, but we are conducting test on running 32-bit OS on 64-bit system. We will let you know soon.

Thanks,

Meili Zhong

gzevin

AMD's x64 chips will run in 32 bit mode. I assume intel Xeon chips are the same.

As an example, I have no idea which version of Redhat TeamSite needs, but many of Sun's opteron boxes are certified on Redhat in 32 bit mode.
http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x4100/os.jsp#Red
http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x4200/os.jsp#Red

so, Jed - in the light of the latest Meili's reply, what would be your reccomended hardware? Smiley Happy

I don't think you can now find any 32-bit servers on enterprise level.

My opinion is that IWOV has released 6.7.1 on Linux that could now be used only on desktop machines. ditto.

jed

so, Jed - in the light of the latest Meili's reply, what would be your reccomended hardware?

I don't think you can now find any 32-bit servers on enterprise level.

My opinion is that IWOV has released 6.7.1 on Linux that could now be used only on desktop machines. ditto.

Since I mainline the Sun Kool Ade, I say dump Linux all together and go with Solaris on a t2000 server. In theory, with TeamSite being a thread-happy, low-float application, this should be a solid (and inexpensive) platform for a production machine ($10-30k based on options). One vendor for OS and hardware reduces complications significantly. I used to be a Linux fanboy, but the permutations of kernels, vendors, and distributions along with the short support lifecycle has totally turned me off. I won't even run Linux on the desktop anymore. With the recent oracle and MS linux announcements, the Linux landscape is only going to get muddier.

Excuse the rant--getting back to your question...
Since some folks cannot go that route and they *have* to use Linux, go with opteron boxes and risk it. Seriously, it is such a low risk that something will not work. My primary concern would be finding hardware certified to run 32-bit Redhat. There are thousands of apps that are proven to work in 32 bit mode.

Will Interwoven really refuse support if you are running a x64 server in 32 bit mode? I imagine a call to your sales exec could clear up any "misunderstandings" with support. Or, keep a pentium 4 laying around the datacenter and verify any bugs in true "x86" mode.

~jed

gzevin

Excuse the rant--getting back to your question...
Since some folks cannot go that route and they *have* to use Linux, go with opteron boxes and risk it. Seriously, it is such a low risk that something will not work. My primary concern would be finding hardware certified to run 32-bit Redhat. There are thousands of apps that are proven to work in 32 bit mode.

Will Interwoven really refuse support if you are running a x64 server in 32 bit mode? I imagine a call to your sales exec could clear up any "misunderstandings" with support. Or, keep a pentium 4 laying around the datacenter and verify any bugs in true "x86" mode.

~jed

Jed,

my current client is looking to standartise on their hardware, in therms of both cost and support streamlining.

If the things come to worse, they will buy a Sun server, but this is the least desirable option.

Yes, at the moment, as you would read Meili's words, IWOV will not support x64 server in 32 bit mode. They are testing, apparently. But this is not supported. And the organisation is one of the largest in this country, so they will not risk running an unsupported solution.

gzevin

As of now, we officially only support x86 systems, but we are conducting test on running 32-bit OS on 64-bit system. We will let you know soon.

Thanks,

Meili Zhong

Meili,

thanks for that. My client has also been informed about the apparently good news.

Now - I posted the message in the OpenDeploy forum, but want to ask here as well. At the moment we run OpenDeploy base server plus admin server on the same box as TeamSite. Will OpenDeploy also be supported?

Migrateduser

OpenDeploy should also work. When we claim support on 64-bit system, both TeamSite and OpenDeploy should be supported.

Thanks,

Meili

sivaramiyer

Hi.
we are in the initial stage of planning for upgrading to 6.7.1 from 6.1. We are considering the prons and cons of staying back with Solaris /moving to Linux.

Will the IWOV officialy start supporting 64bit systems ONLY by SP1 of 6.7.1 - answer to that will be one of the key deciding factors while procuring a new hardware.

Thanks much.
Sivaram

gzevin

Will the IWOV officialy start supporting 64bit systems ONLY by SP1 of 6.7.1

yes, this is true