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GroupTask launch command upon take?

kvargas23

Hi All,
I was wondering, after reading the wflow 6.5 manual I don't see anyway to have a grouptask immediately launch into a command (e.g. like a cgitask does). The DTD for a grouptask doesn't specifiy that its allowed.

So how have folks done this type of thing? I would like to have a command launch immediately launch after someone takes ownership of the group task. It would make sense that Interwoven allow for this.

Does this mean I just have to setup 2 tasks in succession? e.g. a grouptask, have someone "take" it and then (manually or script) immediately transition to a cgitask which does what I want?

Any thoughts?

Keith Vargas
Philips Medical Systems
TeamSite 6.5 sp2
Windows 2003

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kaalraa

Hi All,
I was wondering, after reading the wflow 6.5 manual I don't see anyway to have a grouptask immediately launch into a command (e.g. like a cgitask does). The DTD for a grouptask doesn't specifiy that its allowed.

So how have folks done this type of thing? I would like to have a command launch immediately launch after someone takes ownership of the group task. It would make sense that Interwoven allow for this.

Does this mean I just have to setup 2 tasks in succession? e.g. a grouptask, have someone "take" it and then (manually or script) immediately transition to a cgitask which does what I want?

Any thoughts?

Keith Vargas
Philips Medical Systems
TeamSite 6.5 sp2
Windows 2003

You can make external task as the successor of your group task, so as soon as any user takes over the group task.. it will execute the script being called within the external task.

As per DTD, you can not declare any command within the group task.

kvargas23

Anyway it could be a CGI Task and not an External task? I really need it to be a cgi task that interacts with the user via a GUI. I'm basically trying to avoid having to make the user take the 2nd step of transitioning it themselves.
Keith.

ISCBorisB

You can make external task as the successor of your group task, so as soon as any user takes over the group task.. it will execute the script being called within the external task.

As per DTD, you can not declare any command within the group task.

In this scenario your user will also have to make a transition to the next task after taking over group task.

kaalraa

Anyway it could be a CGI Task and not an External task? I really need it to be a cgi task that interacts with the user via a GUI. I'm basically trying to avoid having to make the user take the 2nd step of transitioning it themselves.
Keith.

In this case could you please specify about your requirements as why you are intending to use a group task? Instead, i would like to suggest you to use a CGI task and ask for User ID and authorize him/her as per the group you intend to use within your group task.

kvargas23

Hi kaalraa,
Sure can, basically were using a group task to facilitate approval. Any one of many users can approve. That list of users who can approve is already preset by an earlier task so that can't be modified.

Our needs are actually straight forward, the user who goes in to approve should take the task and then immately be brought into a custom cgi approval screen in one step.

Keith.

ISCBorisB

Hi kaalraa,
Sure can, basically were using a group task to facilitate approval. Any one of many users can approve. That list of users who can approve is already preset by an earlier task so that can't be modified.

Our needs are actually straight forward, the user who goes in to approve should take the task and then immately be brought into a custom cgi approval screen in one step.

Keith.

The only way to do it is to intercept "GroupTaskTaken" event using iwat. In the script you'll modify ownership of cgitask by owner of grouptask and transition to it.
Also make sure that CGI Task has "immediate" attribute set to true

kvargas23

Thanks ISCBorisB and kaalraa, I really appreciate you taking the time to help out.

The iwat trigger seems like a little more complexity than we want to get into at this point. So I think I'll just educate the user to click "continue" or to transition the task themselves with an immediate to true.

Sincerely,
Keith.

ISCBorisB

Thanks ISCBorisB and kaalraa, I really appreciate you taking the time to help out.

The iwat trigger seems like a little more complexity than we want to get into at this point. So I think I'll just educate the user to click "continue" or to transition the task themselves with an immediate to true.

Sincerely,
Keith.

Please note that you will have issues with CGI Task ownership

kaalraa

Thanks ISCBorisB and kaalraa, I really appreciate you taking the time to help out.

The iwat trigger seems like a little more complexity than we want to get into at this point. So I think I'll just educate the user to click "continue" or to transition the task themselves with an immediate to true.

Sincerely,
Keith.

Immediate=true for cgi task would only work for user of the same group, who has taken the group task ownership. Else the user has to click on "Start Input Task"

kvargas23

Hi kaalraa,
yes, that is true (our users are part of the original group) and I will set it up the (immediate=true).

Thanks,
Keith.

Adam Stoller

The only way to do it is to intercept "GroupTaskTaken" event using iwat. In the script you'll modify ownership of cgitask by owner of grouptask and transition to it.
Also make sure that CGI Task has "immediate" attribute set to true

The same trigger script that does the transition, should first set the owner of the succeeding cgitask to be the same as the user who took ownership of the grouptask - then the immediate="t" will work - however, I'm not sure if the transition being done automatically via the iwat trigger script will suffice for the immediate functionality (haven't tried doing the auto-transition part, I have done the auto-set-owner part)