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How does delete works.

DebSaunders

Just wanted to understand the whole delete process. If i delete the file from teamsite workarea, how does it delete from staging. Do i need to submit the delete file to staging.
So, in another words to delete file first i need to delete it from Teamsite workarea using file menu and then select the deleted file and submit to staging using one of the workflow. What if i need to delete from database to. Can run my own perl script or ipl file to delete files from databasae when i am submitting deleted file to staging. How the workflow will know if this file is deleted or suppose to be deleted from staging area. I hope i am making sense..any information will be helpful.

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Deb

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Bhargav Coca

Yes one needs to submit the deletion to delete the file from staging.( Ref Admin Manual). You can configure your OD and dd to do the deletes from the target server and also from the DB ( Ref OD, DD manual). Yes you can also write custom perl script to Delete and initiate a workflow for all your deletes.

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Adam Stoller

Yes one needs to submit the deletion to delete the file from staging.( Ref Admin Manual). You can configure your OD and dd to do the deletes from the target server and also from the DB ( Ref OD, DD manual). Yes you can also write custom perl script to Delete and initiate a workflow for all your deletes.

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Or - you can replace the OOTB Delete menu option with your own custom Delete menu / script that does all of this for you so that it's more seamless.

Migrateduser

Another option could be that you introduce a delete workflow, where it will delete from the workarea, delete from database and then submit to staging.
Also in TeamSite 6.7.1 you edit the user roles and disable the delete option for all so that they use the delete workflow to delete any DCR's.

I hope this helps

Regards,
-San

DebSaunders

how delete workflow will be invoked. i mean i can create delete workflow. But it should invoke only when user submitting after deleting a file. How to invoke workflow in this case and how to know user submitting files for deletion.

I hope i am making sense...

DebSaunders

Where i can get more information about deleting and using custom script on delete.

nipper

Where i can get more information about deleting and using custom script on delete.

I do not know if there is any more information, unless someone did a GearUp presentation on how they did this.

This is very specific to how you want to work. Every company is different so there is no one size fits all solution.

That being said here are the rough steps that I do:

Delete WF is available only from the submit button.

You do not need to pre-delete the files, I unlink them in the WF.

If you delete a DCR, it will find the generated files and delete them as well.

There is ALWAYS a review process. Even if I approve my own deletes (which I can) I still have to take that step (makes it easier to prevent accidents).

I use the same deploy IPL and deploy XML as the normal WF. However I use a parameter for Delete=Yes/No in the XML and read the WF name in the IPL to decide if how to set the parameter.

More questions you can PM or email me.

Andy

Adam Stoller

I do not know if there is any more information, unless someone did a GearUp presentation on how they did this.

This is very specific to how you want to work. Every company is different so there is no one size fits all solution.

That being said here are the rough steps that I do:

Delete WF is available only from the submit button.

You do not need to pre-delete the files, I unlink them in the WF.

If you delete a DCR, it will find the generated files and delete them as well.

There is ALWAYS a review process. Even if I approve my own deletes (which I can) I still have to take that step (makes it easier to prevent accidents).

I use the same deploy IPL and deploy XML as the normal WF. However I use a parameter for Delete=Yes/No in the XML and read the WF name in the IPL to decide if how to set the parameter.

More questions you can PM or email me.

Andy

If you assume the deletion has taken place before the workflow is instantiated - then you can put code in your WFT to determine if any files are deletions (check to see if they still exist in the workarea) - and if they are deletions - lookup EAs on the version of the file in staging to handle the DCR / generated page issue (and take care of unlinking the corresponding file in the workarea after attaching it to the job).

Adam Stoller

Where i can get more information about deleting and using custom script on delete.

Custom menu items are discussed in the User Interface Customization Guide - at least as far as configuring them to appear in the UI.

Writing the code for the custom menu item is, well, custom - you need to create a CGI program and process the information made available to it in the form of form-variables, cookies, and environment information (search the forums and look at httpd/iw-env/show_env.ipl for assistance in that regard)

Migrateduser

Hi DebSaunders ,

by using a delete workflow, there will be a paradigm shift in the way the user would delete the DCR.

Currently iam assuming that the user would select the DCR and go to file and click on delete.

The option i am refering to is, the user would not select the DCR and then choose delete. Instead, the user would select the DCR and do a file new Job, then choose a work flow named "Delete workflow" .

Once the workflow in invoked, you include an external task/ any relevent task to remove the content from the database and then delete from the workarea and submit to teamsite.

this process will ensure that the users will follow the deletion governance model built in your system.