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Mozilla & IE 7 title bar and other languages

nipper

OK, so I loaded up a Japanese site in TS. Generated everything. Looking really good.

However I have noticed an issue with IE7 and Mozilla. In IE7, the tab labels and title bar do not show the Japanese character (squares instead), for Mozilla the tab is correct but the titlebar is not.

See attached image

Is this an issue I need to care about ? I am assuming there is a browser setting for the langauge and anyone who wants to see this in Japanese will have it set correctly.

Tips/Pointers/RTFMs appreciated

Andy

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ISCBorisB

OK, so I loaded up a Japanese site in TS. Generated everything. Looking really good.

However I have noticed an issue with IE7 and Mozilla. In IE7, the tab labels and title bar do not show the Japanese character (squares instead), for Mozilla the tab is correct but the titlebar is not.

See attached image

Is this an issue I need to care about ? I am assuming there is a browser setting for the langauge and anyone who wants to see this in Japanese will have it set correctly.

Tips/Pointers/RTFMs appreciated

Andy

That's because your Title Bar Font ("Trebuchet MS" perhaps?) does not support complete Unicode,
not Hiragana / Katakana anyway. Unfortunately it's Windows setting.

To fix it:
Display Properties -> Appearance -> Advanced
Chose Item "Active Title Bar", Font "Arial Unicode MS" (for example, I simply know that one has Katakana).

Problem with that MS Settings **** is that if you develop multilingual external Site (I do!)
you can not expect every Internet user to know how to fix garbage in the title. We ended-up
restricting Title to English, sigh...

nipper

That's because your Title Bar Font ("Trebuchet MS" perhaps?) does not support complete Unicode,
not Hiragana / Katakana anyway. Unfortunately it's Windows setting.

To fix it:
Display Properties -> Appearance -> Advanced
Chose Item "Active Title Bar", Font "Arial Unicode MS" (for example, I simply know that one has Katakana).

Problem with that MS Settings **** is that if you develop multilingual external Site (I do!)
you can not expect every Internet user to know how to fix garbage in the title. We ended-up
restricting Title to English, sigh...

Actually, I think I will be OK. I am making the assumption that the user's computer is properly configured for JP. If someone is in Japan then they *likely* have the proper setting OR every window they see will be hosed. In either case, it ain't my problem. And that, my friend, is all that I really care about. Smiley Very Happy

ISCBorisB

I am making the assumption that the user's computer is properly configured for JP

"Properly" is the key term here. Most(all?) locale-dependent Windows installations do not use complete Unicode fonts.
They are just too big, drag on system resources. Local Fonts contain whatever's needed in the Region + English +
little extra, look for example at Windows-1252 (default for the Russian locale). Internal Byte encoding normally
differs from Unicode.

What I'm saying is that "Properly configured Japan Windows" will still show garbage in your UTF-8 encoded Title Bar.
Within the Page itself you force the encoding (http Header and/or http meta) and Unicode-Enabled Browser knows what
to do. Title Bar from the other hand is rendered by Windows, with whatever font has been set for the task.

The only solid option I could think of back then was to recognise target Page locale in PT and generate UTF-8 Page
with <title> Tag trans-coded into default Locale Font. Since we cover the whole planet we decided that's unpractical.