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How to manipulate multi data records to produce one output file?

ericzz

I have a news list and each piece of news is saved as one data record. I would like to prodcue a static html file to display the news list. Any good ideas? As I know, FormsPublisher only combines one data record with one presentation template to generate output file.

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nipper

Forms pub certainly can do what you are asking. There are examples on generating an index page from a list of DCRs.

You do not say what rev of TS you have, OS, what form the news is in, what type of templates you use (TPL/XSLT) . So check out the examples and next question, fill out some of the missing pieces.

ericzz

Forms pub certainly can do what you are asking. There are examples on generating an index page from a list of DCRs.

You do not say what rev of TS you have, OS, what form the news is in, what type of templates you use (TPL/XSLT) . So check out the examples and next question, fill out some of the missing pieces.

nipper, thank you for your support.
I use TeamSite 6.7.1.0 on windows NT.
I use Data Capture Template to create the form and presentation template is TPL. I checked TeamSite FormsPublisher Developer’s Guide and it doesn't mention that the template could be XSLT. if it could, where can I find some information?
Regarding the examples, Did you say tutorials on http://server/iw/help/tst/pt? use iw_perl, iw_load_dcr tags? As I understand, tutorial 3 need iwpt_compile.ipl with many parameters to generate output from command line. could it be done in the way of clicking Generate/Regenerate page in the menu of teamsite user interface? It is easy to use.
As the number of DCR increases, how is the performance to load them and generate output?

Adam Stoller

nipper, thank you for your support.
I use TeamSite 6.7.1.0 on windows NT.
I use Data Capture Template to create the form and presentation template is TPL. I checked TeamSite FormsPublisher Developer’s Guide and it doesn't mention that the template could be XSLT. if it could, where can I find some information?
Regarding the examples, Did you say tutorials on http://server/iw/help/tst/pt? use iw_perl, iw_load_dcr tags? As I understand, tutorial 3 need iwpt_compile.ipl with many parameters to generate output from command line. could it be done in the way of clicking Generate/Regenerate page in the menu of teamsite user interface? It is easy to use.
As the number of DCR increases, how is the performance to load them and generate output?

I believe that the XSLT compiler was added in 6.7.1 SP1 - whereas you appear to be using 6.7.1 [base] - so that might explain why your manual doesn't cover it.
The examples tend to live in IWHOME/examples - the documentation of the PT-based functions is what lives at the URL you mentioned.
Implementations for generating index pages vary based upon requirements, data available, and the preferences / skills of the person performing the implementation.
I tend to write separate indexing scripts that utilize the Perl modules for parsing DCRs / XML that run separately from the normal page generation process (or get called from it). How you choose to do it is ultimately up to you.

Do not expect a full implementation of code to be provided to you here in the forums.

nipper

could it be done in the way of clicking Generate/Regenerate page in the menu of teamsite user interface? It is easy to use. As the number of DCR increases, how is the performance to load them and generate output?

Yea you can use iwpt_compile or generate. You can probably do this with XLST (though I have never tried) but it is quite easy with Perl based TPLs. The last question is obvious, as you read more sources, it take longer. Depending on how many and what type of sorting you do, this can take a while. Thus using iwpt_compile and doing it in a workflow is the best approach.

Take a look at this page, it does exactly what you mention, listing all specials for USAir Vacations which are in several hundred different DCRs, It may take a minute to process (read the special, tag line, location, etc) and build the HTML. Many of the other index pages on this site are built the same way.

HTH

Andy

ericzz

Thank you for your help!
I did an example, it works good.

ericzz

I tend to write separate indexing scripts that utilize the Perl modules for parsing DCRs / XML that run separately from the normal page generation process (or get called from it). How you choose to do it is ultimately up to you.

Could you explain it more?

Adam Stoller

I tend to write separate indexing scripts that utilize the Perl modules for parsing DCRs / XML that run separately from the normal page generation process (or get called from it). How you choose to do it is ultimately up to you.
Could you explain it more?

What part of that didn't you understand?
Or were you asking for me to give you my code for traversing through DCRs, extracting the desired information and then generating an index file? (which I am not going to provide - I do [sometimes] work for a living)

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ericzz

What part of that didn't you understand?
Or were you asking for me to give you my code for traversing through DCRs, extracting the desired information and then generating an index file? (which I am not going to provide - I do [sometimes] work for a living)

I never asked for a full implementation of code. If my words lead to any misunderstanding, I am sorry. As a beginner, I would like to hear any ideas from any people. Just like nipper said, he thought it is the best approach to use iwpt_compile and do it in a workflow. I will try it by myself and verify if it is a good idea.

Actually, in most cases, ideas are more important and precious than code/grammar. I would be grateful if anyone could share any ideas.
While you mentioned means of living, could you leak a little little inforamtion about the prospect and treatment as a CMS/Interwoven consultant? I am also wondering if Interwoven is the best way to do CMS. I feel their documentations are really hard to study.

Adam Stoller

I tend to write separate indexing scripts that utilize the Perl modules for parsing DCRs / XML that run separately from the normal page generation process (or get called from it). How you choose to do it is ultimately up to you.

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I never asked for a full implementation of code. If my words lead to any misunderstanding, I am sorry. As a beginner, I would like to hear any ideas from any people. Just like nipper said, he thought it is the best approach to use iwpt_compile and do it in a workflow. I will try it by myself and verify if it is a good idea.
Actually, in most cases, ideas are more important and precious than code/grammar. I would be grateful if anyone could share any ideas.

Fair enough, and a good attitude to take - however I still don't understand what you wanted more explanation of with regard to the above statement of mine.
You can either handle the index page via a "normal" PT that loads each DCR it finds to extract the information, or you can code it a level lower and write a script that does the same thing utilizing the same modules that the PT processor does - essentially skipping a layer of abstraction.
Both approaches are fine - it mostly depends on how you want to invoke it, and what it has to do in order to perform its intended result (and even then, it's still a toss-up in terms of which direction to go in)

I probably would avoid use the XML layer of abstraction in the PT though and do the whole think in a big iw_perl block - but that's my preference.

Other approaches exist too. For example, if the data in your DCRs that you wish to play on the index page are deployed to a database - then your PT / script may become a large query/result processing script instead of a directory/file traversing script -- or, in the same case - you might not generate the page statically at all and use some ASP/PHP/whatever code in the web page to retrieve the information for the index page dynamically from the database on the front-end.

While you mentioned means of living, could you leak a little little inforamtion about the prospect and treatment as a CMS/Interwoven consultant? I am also wondering if Interwoven is the best way to do CMS. I feel their documentations are really hard to study.

It varies - this year things have been a bit lean, but in general I enjoy it. Is TeamSite the right product to hang your hat on? I suppose that depends. In my case, I've been doing it for 10 years, and I think I'm reasonably good at it - so I'm generally happy. As in most things in life, what you've been exposed to tends to make a difference in what you're good at and hopefully what you enjoy (sometimes it's a negative reaction - in which case you try to do something else).

If you're comfortable working for yourself - go independent, otherwise look for consulting companies to work for. There's no "one right answer" - as with most things - "it depends".

ericzz

Thank you for your explanation. It is very clear and easy to understand. I finally find that there are many ways to implement it. ^_^
As a developer, it is still a long way for me to go.
Enjoy your work and life.