Poll - users use CC STD or CC Pro ?

OK, I am curious, not developers, but the people who actually use TS daily, Do they use CC STD or CC Pro ? Why ?

From my experience a large majority use Pro instead of Std.

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Jamik

We force all of our authors to use CC Std. There are a few people I'd like to restrict to CC Std(they create a lot of headaches because they don't understand what they're doing in CC Pro and they're the kind of person who needs to be told several times how to do something before they get it right) but can't because they're a higher level role than author.

As to why we do this it was a business decision and the reasoning was they wanted business users to be able to easily use the system and felt CC Pro was too complex for the majority of business users.

Note that I don't necessarily agree with the business decision.

Migrateduser

When I was at my previous job, our users all used CCpro. This made sense because they were web developers, not business users, and they could handle the complexities of the CCPro look and feel. But the main reason is they were TeamSite users before CCStd came out and back then TeamSite only had one UI, which looked freakishly like CCPro, so they were all used to that UI anyway. Plus we (the TS Admins) didn't know CCStd and learning a new UI was not in the scope of what we wanted to be doing - we were spread thin enough as it was.

Here at the new job, they are likely going to give the users CCStd. I'm not thrilled, but I get it. The users will primarily be business users, and so the simpler and cleaer UI just makes sense. It's just on more thing for me to have to learn about, but I'm thankful to have this job so I will learn whatever they want me to learn.

Pawan

We make business users work on ccstd though it was a business decision but i feel it makes more sense for business users not to see so many options which may be disabled for them or they will never use it. however, some business users who are involved in admin role too prefer the ccpro ui as it makes life easier for them.

CRB

business users use CCSTD for the same reasons, simpler and most restricted for users who don't know what they are doing.Developers use CCPro because they are doing development.

ccprofessional

OK, I am curious, not developers, but the people who actually use TS daily, Do they use CC STD or CC Pro ? Why ?

From my experience a large majority use Pro instead of Std.

This is a good question with large implications. Some anecdotal stuff: one project where I worked on, we developed an entire system using CCPro. Cool workflows, UI customizations to start workflows, etc. etc. System worked great.

In the 11th hour, a i-know-it-all cobol-programmer-turned-manager looked at the system and decided CCStd was soo easy on the eyes, and gave the reins on CCStd to the Business. Needless to say, everything broke! There was no testing so far for CCStd because the requirements (you know how requirements target www not cms) had nothing specific to ccstd or ccpro. We spent a ton of time and money in regression testing and bug fixes.

The project budget went 50% over and over 4 month beyond expected go-live. The implementer almost went broke because of this fixed price project and got royally screwed.

Lesson: Be specific what you are targetting from the git-go. CCStd and CCPro are different animals and you better know what you want ahead of time.

Personally I dont recommend CCStd because - a) performance. b) it will receive the fate "Webdesk" had - remember webdesk / webdesk pro?

azhagi

Hi,

I think you can come to conclusion from the name itself

CC Pro - Professionals who knows about the entire system functionality.

CC Std - No need great expertise but little knowledge to handle the system.

Sometimes simple things we can take it as simple. If we see simple things as big then by experience we come to know that simple things are simple only .

Thanks
Sugan

Adam Stoller

I'd say that probably 90-99% of my customers use CCPro exclusively.
My feeling is:

If/when 7.0 ever gets released, the issue may become moot - as the plans (at least those discussed in GearUps prior to 2009) for the UI is to sort of "merge" the functionality of the two UIs and provide all sorts of new possibilities (some might say problems, some might say challenges, and some might say opportunities - but whatever, it's going to be interesting...)

abiondo

We are using CCPro for our roll out. We decided that standardizing on one interface would make training easier and speed troubleshooting if we use the same interface as the users.

Migrateduser

How about creating a business user role and let them use CC Pro, but remove all the functionality you don't want the business users to have through the custom roles?

SethHickel

Our web content providers use CCPro. Our business content providers (mainly intranet content) use CCStd.