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Some basic Questions about Preview

spayal

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In the above mentioned code, two tpl files are mentioned. radio.tpl and radio_html.tpl.

1) As per manual, "branch vpath-regex=".*" " means any branch can use html files generated using this tpl file . What does this mean ? If DCRs are in one branch, then we just go to that branch and click preview to generate html files. How can these html files be used from other branch ? How does other branch have access to contents of this branch ?

2) When " preview-dir="/" " is used, the html files are created in this directory. How to access these html files. Every time, I want to preview, I just click on preview button and html files get generated. Do these files exist in some directory after being generated ? Once generated using preview, can I just view tghese files in some directory or do I need to generate it again ? I dont see any html files generated in the directory.

3) What happens when the extension is .jsp or .asp ? How does jsp page get generated ? As jsp or asp page needs the java code get processed and it lies in application server directory, how does the mechanism to generate html page work in this case ?

thanks in advance.

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Migrateduser

1. No, you will not be able to use the radio.tpl and radio_html.tpl in other branches. You are limited to use them in your current branch.

2. Everything in your preview_dir is relative to your workarea. When you generate a file, some files called zz_xxxx.html file will be generated. The "/" directory is where the temporary files will be. If you generated the files before preview, you specify where it goes and what to name the files.

3. It will depend on your webserver. If your webserver is IIS, asp files might already be configured. You will need to configure your webserver to server up jsp pages. Not sure if IIS is able to do that. If you are using apache, there should be examples for setting up jsp pages with apache on the net.

spayal

1) Not only under current branches, but also under current data-type only. That also tpl file has to be present under that branch for that particular data-type in presentation folder ? Doe this mean that same data-type may be using different TPLs in different work areas even in the same branch ? If so, how to specify different TPLs for the same data-type in templating.cfg ? As we specify only to the branch level in templating.cfg ?

2) So how to view this zz_xxxx.html without using preview function and directly going in to the folder ? In the code posted here, where will the zz_xxxx.html be generated ?

3) Why do we need virtualization in iw.cfg to serve jsp pages ? Cant we place jsp pages in a directory in tomcat and view it ?

Adam Stoller

1) Not only under current branches, but also under current data-type only. That also tpl file has to be present under that branch for that particular data-type in presentation folder ? Doe this mean that same data-type may be using different TPLs in different work areas even in the same branch ? If so, how to specify different TPLs for the same data-type in templating.cfg ? As we specify only to the branch level in templating.cfg ?

2) So how to view this zz_xxxx.html without using preview function and directly going in to the folder ? In the code posted here, where will the zz_xxxx.html be generated ?

3) Why do we need virtualization in iw.cfg to serve jsp pages ? Cant we place jsp pages in a directory in tomcat and view it ?

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spayal

Thanks. Questions 1 and 2 are clear. But still come confusion on Question 3.
What do you mean by customer web server ? Which server is that ?
When I send a request for a web server, where TeamSite is installed, it goes on port number 80, from where TS home page is loaded and TS application is accessed. Now, when preview is clicked, the request goes to the same server again , html page is created using selected tpl and this html page is stored in top level directory of a work area from where it is taken and displayed.
Now if its JSP page, the preview request will still come to apache server first, directed to tpl specified and this tpl creates jsp pageand from here it is redirected to customer web server ? Where is this redirection specified ?

nipper

when you install TeamSite, you specify what webserver you normally use (IIS, Apache) and what port it should run on (typically 81).

Your webserver (IIS) will render any previewed content (HTML) this is basic TS funcationality and handled by iwproxy

khyati

how come these things are not documented in manuals and I have to post every little thing on over here ?

You guys are providing good help, but I am unable to understand the broad picture.

My understanding is that previewed content is provided by Apache. As when request comes to webserver (which is Apache) from preview button, tpl will create html page from dcr and this html page will be sent back to browser.

I dont understand, where does IIS come in picture.

Problem for which I am running this thread is, if preview function is not working then what can be the reason.

1 If its jsp page then it can be the server to which this request is redirected.

2 If its html page, then may be web server (which receives the request - which is Apache according to my understanding) is not running. But if web service is not running then entire TeamSite will be down rather than only Preview function.

3 If my understanding is not correct, then does it mean that any request received by Apache webserver is redirected to IIS and IIS is the server which serves web pages ? If this is true, then why is there such an arrangement rather than Apache web server serving the web pages ? How is request directed to IIS from Apache ? Is there any virtualization required or is it inbuilt ?

Pls answer all the questions , if possible. Because unanswered questions leaves many doubts.

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nipper

IIS comes into the picture if you are using windows and have IIS as a web server. Many people do.

create a new file called hello.html in the top of a workarea, put Hello in it and nothing else (no tags, no nothing).

Go to TeamSite, find the file and click on it. Does a window pop up ? If so, does it say hello ? If yes, preview works. Then rename the file to .jsp and click on it ? What happens ?

spayal

Thanks for showing me the way to check preview functionality.

I have other questions as mentioned in my last post. Can you pls answer those questions to clarify the broad picture ?

Adam Stoller

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1 If its jsp page then it can be the server to which this request is redirected.

2 If its html page, then may be web server (which receives the request - which is Apache according to my understanding) is not running. But if web service is not running then entire TeamSite will be down rather than only Preview function.

3 If my understanding is not correct, then does it mean that any request received by Apache webserver is redirected to IIS and IIS is the server which serves web pages ? If this is true, then why is there such an arrangement rather than Apache web server serving the web pages ? How is request directed to IIS from Apache ? Is there any virtualization required or is it inbuilt ?

Pls answer all the questions , if possible. Because unanswered questions leaves many doubts.

First - have you read the TeamSite Administrator's Guide? For 6.7.1 SP1 - Chapter 9, starting on page 189 might answer some of your questions.

The webserver that manages the TeamSite GUI (iwwebd / Apache) is not the webserver that provides Preview functionality (Apache, IIS, iPlanet, etc. - customer-specific).

If you want more answers - please at least provide sufficient information for the answers to be based on - like:

spayal

Sorry.

TS 6.7.1 SP1,
Windows Server 2003

What do you mean by customer web server and how can I check that ?

Adam Stoller

Sorry.

TS 6.7.1 SP1,
Windows Server 2003

What do you mean by customer web server and how can I check that ?

Try reading the manuals - starting with the TeamSite Installation Guide, followed by the TeamSite Administrator's Guide - search for the term "customer web server" - and if you don't know how to check if it's there - consider talking to someone in IT at your site.

spayal

I believe, I need to understand TeamSite architecture in order to understand this problem. Pls explain with patience and dont cut short your answers.

1) If browser is used to access TS, request goes to iwwebd, which is Apache , correct ?

2) If the request is for jsp or html page, then this request is directed to iwproxy (IIS server), right ? When is this request be directed to servlet engine ?

3) IIS will send request for html page and for jsp page content web server or to iwserver. Which server is this content web server ? Because I see only Apache and IIS service running under services in computer where TS is installed

4) This content web server accesses iwserver through shared drive. What if this Y: drive (Which is IWSERVER) is not shared ?
what is iwserver service (Y: drive is IWSERVER when shared) ? I dont see any service running as iwserver under services.
"Interwoven TeamSite" service is running under services, is this iwserver ?

5) iwserver accesses content store to get the page or data. This content store is default or anyother. Y: drive is a part of this content store, right ? From here data is fetched for display. Do if data is to be put in content store, how will the request flow ?

Thanks. Pls excuse, if question is not properly structured.

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nipper

Tell your boss you need training. Then go. In the mean time buy the Definitive Guide to TeamSite from amazon.com and read it.

Adam Stoller

Tell your boss you need training. Then go. In the mean time buy the Definitive Guide to TeamSite from amazon.com and read it.

Added link.
Training needed - I'd say yes.
Reading needed - I'd say yes.
Definitive Guide to TeamSite - $100 (okay, used from $72) - maybe, but frankly if the manuals aren't sufficient - training, though more expensive, would probably be better - in an instructor-led class, at least you get to ask questions directly to someone whom you're paying to educate you.

(bookpool.com supposedly has the book for $54.95 - but their site appears to be broken ;-) )

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