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Teamsite submit

nk300

when we submit to staging, do we need to regenerate rss/index/maps/xiti files everytime. Experts please advice.

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Migrateduser

If you aren't using a custom workflow to submit then you need to create one and add a externaltask that calls some code that regenerates your file.

Migrateduser

Regenerating index and mapping pages is often a step used in workflow, however, it is dependent on the type of website you are supporting. If it is basically static, or at least these pages are static, then you have no choice but to regenerate these pages during a submit or possibly during deployment. You might well find it more effecient to regenerate these pages only when you deploy as you may be submitting multiple times through multiple workflow instances which could cause conflicts if you are trying to regenerate and submit the index (etc) pages multiple times.

RonaldV

Experts please advice.

Maybe you should simply hire some expertise.

namithapai

This is getting old. Everytime someone asks a question, the answer is, "hire someone". If that is the answer, then please don't answer. Either you can suggest solutions/help in some way or just not reply.

When experienced people, say such things once in a while, it makes people get up and be more vigilant and work harder, but when it is said almost all the time, then the forum stops being a learning place. It is a scary place where no one wants to post and be talked down to.

Is the situation so bad that we need to always try to get hired/find projects from someone who needs just a little direction?

nipper

This is getting old. Everytime someone asks a question, the answer is, "hire someone". If that is the answer, then please don't answer. Either you can suggest solutions/help in some way or just not reply.

When someone continually asks inane questions, it is obvious they cannot do the job. That is the only answer they deserve.

ISCBorisB

This is getting old. Everytime someone asks a question, the answer is, "hire someone". If that is the answer, then please don't answer. Either you can suggest solutions/help in some way or just not reply.

When experienced people, say such things once in a while, it makes people get up and be more vigilant and work harder, but when it is said almost all the time, then the forum stops being a learning place. It is a scary place where no one wants to post and be talked down to.

Is the situation so bad that we need to always try to get hired/find projects from someone who needs just a little direction?

Why don't you try to answer the original thread's question? If you do, you may perhaps understand better why "Hire someone" is the only response some people get here.

namithapai

This question did not seem inane at all. The user was just asking if index pages etc need to be done manually, because teamsite has several places where things are not obvious.

Btw I assumed we are here to share and discuss not to judge.

Just a thought, would you have said the same thing to the person face to face?

If a child is learning to ride the bike, and falls over and over again, how about the parents just telling them to go get a cab?

I am also fairly new to teamsite, compared to you experts. So I went to the Interwoven Developer series. I can say that I did not learn much more than what I knew already. When I asked more questions, I was told to post on Devnet or contact Support. So what do you suggest? You want to go do each and every teamsite job there is in the world?

namithapai

Btw my original reply was only for RonaldV. Taalgaard and farnsaw have given good answers in the right spirit. :-)

Migrateduser

The 3 or 4 people on this site who actually help others on a daily basis are doing so out of the goodness of their hearts. You are fortunate if they take even 5 minutes out of their day to help you at all. I would recommend that you do not bite the hand that feeds you.

More often than not, the questions that receive the "hire someone" response are the type of question that could be answered by taking the time to do some simple research. If someone is not willing to do at least that much, why should anyone else waste their valuable time helping them?

Clearly someone has given these people the opportunity to work on a TeamSite project. They are getting paid. if they bid on this contract and won it, and they falsely claimed they could do the work, then they have taken that job away from a more qualified person. Why should those people be spoon fed? It's a cutthroat world out there, especially in this economy. If you claimed to your client that you can develop a TeamSite project and you can't, why should someone help you?

namithapai

I can either continue to argue my case, or let it be and rest my case. I choose the do the latter, but with a closing statement.

1. Not everyone starts working on teamsite, because they "bid" for the project. Sometimes they are just in the spot where they need to make things work.(been there , done that)

2. Not everyone earns $90 per hour to do these tasks. The pay is sometimes as low as $10 an hour ( been there, done that)

3. Sometimes reading the manual over and over again does not offer the simple straightforward answer that is required. ( been there, done that)

4. Sometimes attending training does not give the answers required. ( been there, done that)

5. Sometimes the job is in a country where the pressure is so high and the resources are limited. It is the higher powers that control funding, hiring, training, licenses etc. These are not the same people asking questions here at the forum.

6. Being "kind" in addition to "goodness of the heart" makes one a bigger person. As they say "Silence can speak a thousand words".

All this being said, I rest my case. Woof woof :-)

kaalraa

This question did not seem inane at all. The user was just asking if index pages etc need to be done manually, because teamsite has several places where things are not obvious.

Btw I assumed we are here to share and discuss not to judge.

Just a thought, would you have said the same thing to the person face to face?

If a child is learning to ride the bike, and falls over and over again, how about the parents just telling them to go get a cab?

I am also fairly new to teamsite, compared to you experts. So I went to the Interwoven Developer series. I can say that I did not learn much more than what I knew already. When I asked more questions, I was told to post on Devnet or contact Support. So what do you suggest? You want to go do each and every teamsite job there is in the world?

When someone needs to learn, person should not care for others. Just go and learn any way you can.

Migrateduser

I can either continue to argue my case, or let it be and rest my case. I choose the do the latter, but with a closing statement.

1. Not everyone starts working on teamsite, because they "bid" for the project. Sometimes they are just in the spot where they need to make things work.(been there , done that)

2. Not everyone earns $90 per hour to do these tasks. The pay is sometimes as low as $10 an hour ( been there, done that)

3. Sometimes reading the manual over and over again does not offer the simple straightforward answer that is required. ( been there, done that)

4. Sometimes attending training does not give the answers required. ( been there, done that)

5. Sometimes the job is in a country where the pressure is so high and the resources are limited. It is the higher powers that control funding, hiring, training, licenses etc. These are not the same people asking questions here at the forum.

6. Being "kind" in addition to "goodness of the heart" makes one a bigger person. As they say "Silence can speak a thousand words".

All this being said, I rest my case. Woof woof :-)

None of this is relevant. If this was an Interwoven supported site, where it was Interwoven engineers who were answering your questions and getting paid to do it, I would expect more. But this is a public forum. You get what you pay for. If you make a reasonable effort, you will likely get some of the top talents in the world to help you. If you don't, you won't. Simple as that.

Make an effort.

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RonaldV

I feel I need to explain myself here after this flame-war.

If someone (a newbie f.i.) with a problem like this would post a question on this forum, and in his question (s)he would show what he had tried hard to find an answer (training/manual/colleagues/search) and, maybe would have posted a more 'polite' answer, and maybe even would have started the message with captital and, maybe would have ended the post with a question-mark, and maybe would have mentioned that he is a newbie and would like to receive any possible help then I would have been more than willing to help him/her. But this simple and short question, one line that ends with 'Experts please advise', does not come anywhere near these criteria.

My post was driven by frustration that I feel that the level/quality of the questions (!not the answers!) on this forum has really gone down over the last say 3 years. I often really think I am wasting my time when trying to answer a few questions on these forum.

Lets further close this discussion?

Migrateduser

I don't consider this a flame war. I think it's been a long time coming and needs to be said. It's not a right to get help on this site. No one is paying for the help they get here. It's a privilege to get the help of the very few "experts" that are left on this site. You are fortunate if one of them helps you at all.

If your job is to develop or administer Interwoven applications, and you don't have the first clue how to do that, you should get the proper training or find another job. This is not a training site. There are plenty of people who do know how to do these things who are out of work. Suggesting you hire one of those people is a valid response to many questions that are asked on this site.

mr1984

i totally agree with Smitty77 and nipper ,there are only few experts who want to help themselves on their own,pls dont create problems so that they also stop posting

@ namitha

i am also an indian but lets accept where is the mistake ,very few indian guys are even willing to help even if they know even if you send them personal msg ,we all know from where are all the basic Qs originating ,so lets stop fooling ourselves and accepting generous unconditional help offered by these guys ,if they go forum will be gone in 1 day ,i am sure of that

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