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Output as xml

windy

My user community want to be able to create content in TeamSite and this content consumed by a community portal.

The integration piece between TeamSite and the community Portal is a content feed which reads and parses xml.

So far I can deploy dcrs for the content feed to read parse and display.

The additional requirement which I need help with is that user want to be able to develop rich content in TeamSite i.e. pages with images etc and deploy these to the Portal.

I am working on a POC which combines a dcr with a tpl, or xsl to possibly output xml. My question is - is it possible to output xml from TeamSite? My efforts so far have failed.

Any advise would be appreciated.

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Migrateduser

Check out the examples in your install directory.

iw-home\examples\Templating\templatedata\xml

Bjorn

My question is - is it possible to output xml from TeamSite? My efforts so far have failed.

I guess I am curious why there are so many posts that ask, "Can you output [XYZ] from TeamSite?". I hope I don't seem presumptuous in asking this. I've just always wondered if there is something I am over-looking that drives this common question. Hopefully some others can chime in?

You can create any kind of output you like, particularly if you're leveraging Perl presentation templates. You could output XML, JSPs, Javascript, HTML, simple text, PDFs, CLOBS to put as records in a DB, whatever. Pretty much anything or a combination of multiple anythings as long as you've got the time and resources to write an appropriate template (or build an appropriate workflow, too, I guess).

All that to say, how have your efforts failed in trying to output XML? Are you getting specific errors or anything?

Adam Stoller

I guess I am curious why there are so many posts that ask, "Can you output [XYZ] from TeamSite?". I hope I don't seem presumptuous in asking this. I've just always wondered if there is something I am over-looking that drives this common question. Hopefully some others can chime in?

You can create any kind of output you like, particularly if you're leveraging Perl presentation templates. You could output XML, JSPs, Javascript, HTML, simple text, PDFs, CLOBS to put as records in a DB, whatever. Pretty much anything or a combination of multiple anythings as long as you've got the time and resources to write an appropriate template (or build an appropriate workflow, too, I guess).

I wonder about it too - but I generally put it down to a lack of training and/or lack of reading manuals.

One of my favorite quotes from Jon **** (one of, if not the, developer of PTs) was:[indent]A PT is an arbitrary program that takes arbitrary data (DCR) and produces arbitrary output[/indent]

ExampleOutline.rptdesign

ISCBorisB

I guess I am curious why there are so many posts that ask, "Can you output [XYZ] from TeamSite?". I hope I don't seem presumptuous in asking this. I've just always wondered if there is something I am over-looking that drives this common question. Hopefully some others can chime in?

You can create any kind of output you like, particularly if you're leveraging Perl presentation templates. You could output XML, JSPs, Javascript, HTML, simple text, PDFs, CLOBS to put as records in a DB, whatever. Pretty much anything or a combination of multiple anythings as long as you've got the time and resources to write an appropriate template (or build an appropriate workflow, too, I guess).

All that to say, how have your efforts failed in trying to output XML? Are you getting specific errors or anything?

In my personal experience the reason is two-fold. First one is plain ignorance. That happens when IT folks with only tangential exposure
to TS (Sysadmins and the like) are trying to gather information for some extremely vague Management requests. Here is a sample:
"Oh, but can TeamSite maintain(sic!) secure Mobile Portal?!"

Another one is related to very real issues of virtualization, rendition Environments, Live Site and all this stuff. People template something,
click "Preview" and expect the result to appear by magic no matter what this "something" is.

Bjorn

Another one is related to very real issues of virtualization, rendition Environments, Live Site and all this stuff. People template something,
click "Preview" and expect the result to appear by magic no matter what this "something" is.

Good point. This one I can understand.

For example, can you output JSPs? Sure. Can you preview them? Sure. Can you preview them in the context of the actual application for which they're intended? Maybe. Etc. etc.

windy

I guess I am curious why there are so many posts that ask, "Can you output [XYZ] from TeamSite?". I hope I don't seem presumptuous in asking this. I've just always wondered if there is something I am over-looking that drives this common question. Hopefully some others can chime in?

You can create any kind of output you like, particularly if you're leveraging Perl presentation templates. You could output XML, JSPs, Javascript, HTML, simple text, PDFs, CLOBS to put as records in a DB, whatever. Pretty much anything or a combination of multiple anythings as long as you've got the time and resources to write an appropriate template (or build an appropriate workflow, too, I guess).

All that to say, how have your efforts failed in trying to output XML? Are you getting specific errors or anything?

Bjorn, Thanks for your response. I have looked through the examples in the installation directory and none of them actually outputs xml i.e the extension for output for the data-type press release in the templating.cfg is html.

Other than the need to generate xml via presentation templates, I also need to generate content which can be consumed by a portal and is rich enough to contain tables, images etc. Any scripts or examples of scripts would be apprciated.

Pawan

....I am working on a POC which combines a dcr with a tpl, or xsl to possibly output xml. My question is - is it possible to output xml from TeamSite? My efforts so far have failed.

Any advise would be appreciated.

If you are working on a POC, then you may have to dig a lot into many technical stuff. As mentioned earlier go through the training or read manuals.

Bjorn

Bjorn, Thanks for your response. I have looked through the examples in the installation directory and none of them actually outputs xml i.e the extension for output for the data-type press release in the templating.cfg is html.

Other than the need to generate xml via presentation templates, I also need to generate content which can be consumed by a portal and is rich enough to contain tables, images etc. Any scripts or examples of scripts would be apprciated.

XML is better determined by the contents of the file than its extension. Did you look in iw-home\examples\Templating\templatedata\xml? I don't have an installation right here to see exactly what you're talking about.

But that's irrelevant:
1 - Take an existing example .TPL file that outputs HTML or whatever.
2 - Copy it and name it something else.
3 - Reconfigure it so that it either writes your own XML as required.
4 - If you must, change the file extension to be .xml.
5 - Reconfigure the file extension in templating.cfg to be "xml".
6 - You'd now be outputting XML anytime you generate.

You can output ANYTHING you want. Yes, you can output XML. Yes, you can output content which can be consumed by a portal and is rich enough to contain tables, images etc. If you want, you can - if just for example - simply use a TPL with an [HTML][/HTML] tag and then use Perl code and a custom module you wrote that updates some XML and then sends a request to a web service in your kitchen to make your morning coffee.

So if you're doing a POC, take a look at all the example TPLs, then start simple. Test it out. Then begin adding functionality you need. Test it again. Then add more functionality. Test it again. Start with this kind of rapid iterative development. Also read through this thread again. It might seem like people are teasing you, but the points raised are valid, especially the comment from ISCBorisB about previewing vs. generating. Basically, the answer to 99.9% of questions that are "Can I generate..." is yes. If your question is actually "How do I generate..." then try the basic steps above, building on each step along the way.

Good luck!

windy

Thanks Bjorn.

I tend to find that behind some of the sarcastic remarks lie nuggests of wisdom Smiley Happy