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7.2.1 SitePublisher without LiveSite

jasonmcneil

Hey all, I know this has been discussed previously, but with the changes to licensing, packaging, and product naming, I thought it best to bring up again to confirm my understanding as of November 2010.

Please let me know if and where I might be mistaken (or confirm if I'm correct!)

1) A TeamSite license includes the use of SitePublisher.
2) A LiveSite license is required to display SitePublisher content (.page files) on a runtime server.
3) SitePublisher content can however be converted to html/jsp/xhtml/etc. to then be deployed on a non-LiveSite runtime (ie. Apache/tomcat/IIS/etc.)
4) SitePublisher is included in the TeamSite installation package, however if only TeamSite 7.2.1.0 is checked during the installation (after installing Common Services) SitePublisher functionality is not available
5) You must install the Web Content Authoring component included in the TeamSite installation package, which is actually LiveSite Content Authoring Services. Once this is installed there is a SitePublisher menu and functionality is accessible in the TS interface.
6) LSCS Authoring does NOT require a LiveSite license (though my log files tend to complain the lack of a LSCS.lic file)
7) If all goes smoothly, I should have SitePublisher functionality, with only a TS.lic license, however I will need to convert .page files to a format which can be rendered by a standard webserver

Please discuss Smiley Happy

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Adam Stoller

Follow-on question:

I recently dropped my LiveSite license for my personal DEV box - and plan to install 7.2.1 when I get the chance - but I'm wondering if I have to go through all the DB contortions as part of the install process in this configuration.

nipper

Common services requires a DB, not optional.

srosewall

Below is my current understanding.
Happy to be corrected if there are any obvious errors / omissions.

1) A TeamSite license includes the use of SitePublisher.

You need to enable SitePublisher when you create a license for TeamSite

2) A LiveSite license is required to display SitePublisher content (.page files) on a runtime server.

There is no license file for LSDS (LiveSite Display Services).

3) SitePublisher content can however be converted to html/jsp/xhtml/etc. to then be deployed on a non-LiveSite runtime (ie. Apache/tomcat/IIS/etc.)

It can.

4) SitePublisher is included in the TeamSite installation package, however if only TeamSite 7.2.1.0 is checked during the installation (after installing Common Services) SitePublisher functionality is not available

It should be available if the license has SitePublisher enabled.

5) You must install the Web Content Authoring component included in the TeamSite installation package, which is actually LiveSite Content Authoring Services. Once this is installed there is a SitePublisher menu and functionality is accessible in the TS interface.

No - LSCS Authoring is an additional optional module.

6) LSCS Authoring does NOT require a LiveSite license (though my log files tend to complain the lack of a LSCS.lic file)

LSCS Authoring and Runtime require license files, but LSDS does not

7) If all goes smoothly, I should have SitePublisher functionality, with only a TS.lic license, however I will need to convert .page files to a format which can be rendered by a standard webserver

If you are not using LiveSite Display Services then the answer is yes - if you've enabled SitePublisher in your TeamSite license file.

As nipper suggest, database configuration is now a requirement even if you are not using the functionality listed. Also, if SitePublisher is enabled, then you will need to specify it's database connections even if you plan not to use them (development and production databases).

Hope that helps.

jasonmcneil

Very interesting, thanks for the info.

If installing TeamSite and looking at the interface during the 48 hour license free window, wouldn't you expect to still see the SitePublisher menus/functionality?

I actually had a look at my license file (which does have SitePublisher=true) and installed in to C:/Interwoven/TeamSite/etc, restarted TS service and did an iwreset -a, annnnnd there's the SitePublisher menus!

Excellent, thanks again.

vpatel

...
Happy to be corrected if there are any obvious errors / omissions.
...

There is no license file for LSDS (LiveSite Display Services).
....

LSCS Authoring and Runtime require license files, but LSDS does not
...

You have to be licensed to use SitePublisher. You may have a TS (without SP) license. Bottom line is that TS license does NOT guarantee you rights to SP -- it may or it may not. If you have concerns, check w your rep. SP is installed along w TS no matter what -- however, it is enabled or disabled based on what sort of license key is provided.

LSDS: technically speaking there is no LSDS.lic file or anything. However, that does NOT mean that it does NOT require a license. You are still required to be licensed appropriately to be in compliance -- just from technical perspective there is NO .lic file.

LSCS: same thing as LSDS that I just mentioned with one change: it requires a LSCS.lic file :-)!

HTH!

haider

You have to be licensed to use SitePublisher. You may have a TS (without SP) license. Bottom line is that TS license does NOT guarantee you rights to SP -- it may or it may not. If you have concerns, check w your rep. SP is installed along w TS no matter what -- however, it is enabled or disabled based on what sort of license key is provided.

LSDS: technically speaking there is no LSDS.lic file or anything. However, that does NOT mean that it does NOT require a license. You are still required to be licensed appropriately to be in compliance -- just from technical perspective there is NO .lic file.

LSCS: same thing as LSDS that I just mentioned with one change: it requires a LSCS.lic file :-)!

HTH!

Thanks this is really good to understand the licensing part of TS7.

ISCBorisB

Thanks this is really good to understand the licensing part of TS7.

If you have any questions regarding licensing you absolutely must talk to your Autonomy representative.
Anything you hear on the open forum, whether it is correct or not is legally nothing but somebody's opinion.

nipper

If you have any questions regarding licensing you absolutely must talk to your Autonomy representative.
Anything you hear on the open forum, whether it is correct or not is legally nothing but somebody's opinion.

Viral is an A/I SE so he is an authorized representative.

srosewall

...technically speaking there is no LSDS.lic file or anything...
HTH!

Hopefully, the audience understood that I was coming from a technical angle... Smiley Happy

Regards.

mart2001

How many parts are there to LiveSite Runtime?

LSDS - no license required

LSCS Authoring - license required

Are there more parts to LiveSite Runtime?

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