dinamic creation of tasks

I have looked for this topic but I have not found anything similar.
Is it possible to create dinamically, for example, different group tasks according to a variable or parameter (set during instantiation phase)?

TS 7.3.2

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ISCBorisB

I have looked for this topic but I have not found anything similar.
Is it possible to create dinamically, for example, different group tasks according to a variable or parameter (set during instantiation phase)?

TS 7.3.2

It is trivial to do in WFT. In WFM though, the best I was able to come up with (for similar case) have been to include all tasks in
the Model upfront and transition to desired one through conditional links. You may want to look at [thread=35300]this thread[/thread] for some discussion.

dorfi

Thanks for the info.

Hoped in something more dynamic, but if this is the only approach..

Adam Stoller

Note that with conditional links - which are evaluated at instantiation time - the tasks / transitions that do not conform to the conditions are not included in the resultant job specification. No - it's not truly dynamic in that you don't add / remove tasks from the job once it's been instantiated, but it is as dynamic as the WFT process was (just not as programmatic).

ISCBorisB

Note that with conditional links - which are evaluated at instantiation time - the tasks / transitions that do not conform to the conditions are not included in the resultant job specification. No - it's not truly dynamic in that you don't add / remove tasks from the job once it's been instantiated, but it is as dynamic as the WFT process was (just not as programmatic).

Just to clarify my take on all that... True, as long as Job has been already instantiated, WFM is as dynamic as WFT ever was.

However, on evaluation level (almost) all WFT machinery has been exposed through WFConstructor. Nothing like that exists for WFM.
With the constructor you can make Job Specs generation as dynamic as it could possibly get. The price to pay of course is "low Level"
coding. You need some understanding of Job Specs and Constructor API.

dorfi

I have never used WFT, so I cannot compare the two systems.
What I think is that you are "forced" to foresee all the possible tasks during the workflow definition and then "play" during the instantiation.
What originally I was looking for, was some way for the creation of new tasks, not included in the WF definition.

Thank you and I will use conditional links for my purpose.

ISCBorisB

...you are "forced" to foresee all the possible tasks during the workflow definition...

That's correct! You have hit on the head the main problem with "Conditional Links" proposal. Unfortunately,
I was not able to find better approach in WFM, supported or otherwise.

WFT's WFConstructor allows to programmaticaly create flow fragments (or the whole flow) on the fly, based on
instantiation screen data, configurations, users, attachments or anything else you can think of. Perhaps one day
TS development will expose an API to similar WFM Mechanism.

Adam Stoller

That's correct! You have hit on the head the main problem with "Conditional Links" proposal. Unfortunately,
I was not able to find better approach in WFM, supported or otherwise.

WFT's WFConstructor allows to programmaticaly create flow fragments (or the whole flow) on the fly, based on
instantiation screen data, configurations, users, attachments or anything else you can think of. Perhaps one day
TS development will expose an API to similar WFM Mechanism.

The main place where WFT's API are significantly better for programatically adding tasks is when you want to add N instances of a task (like N user tasks for reviews)
I thought there was supposed to be someplace where you could associate a 'replication' number in WFM, which might be settable via a Configurable Variable - but I cannot seem to find it (just looked real quickly)

For one-off [sets-of] task that either exist or don't exist based on a condition - the effort is roughly the same with WFT and WFM in that you either have to define the code for the task to be inserted or you have o define the task with the conditional links.