Hi,
A lot of our clients use Documentum and I am looking to get started integrating with it.
Is there an easy way to do this? like a developer environment you can use without having licenses to Documentum?
Thanks for any advice.
Phil
No. There is no hosted development site for developer, nor does EMC provide trial version of the software. If your clients use the software, you should speak to your clients about getting access to their dev enviroments.
Hi Phil,
We are working on making a development environment available and should have something public soon.
Karin
Hi Karin,
Do you have any info about how this will be done ? e.g Time bombed VMware appliance. or something like that, also, what will be the requirements for being eligible to download/use it ?
I would love it if there were a developer version of Documentum with more flexible requirements and that performed reasonably on desktop PCs - i.e. running on non-server OS (XP, Vista, OSX, etc), compatible with a small/free JDBC compliant database (MySQL, Postgres, H2, etc). My laptop is creaking under the strain of VMware + Windows Server + SQL Server + Content Server + Eclipse + Tomcat.
I doubt they're going to rewrite the whole content server just to support opensource stuff (I'd like it though)
Don't forget that whatever way they do, you'll still have an RDBMS, the content server, most likely an application server and a client. Without even talking about your preferred dev IDE/debugger....
It can already run on a desktop, as a matter of fact, as we speak I have Oracle, Content Server 5.3 SP6, Webtop 5.3 SP6 and Tomcat running on my dual processor, 3GB RAM, laptop. YES, I said laptop, and on top of it, it's running Visa Business (what a pile of .... this Vista, can't even believe they reintroduced the good old Blue screen of death). and believe you me, for development, it good enough. It's no production, high load server but for a dev env with very little number of users and documents in the repository, it does the trick. It is actually good enough to also use it for demos in front of prospects....
>I doubt they're going to rewrite the whole content server just to support opensource stuff
If you don't ask you don't get :-)
I'm fairly sure that you wouldn't need to rewrite much to support some additional databases and desktop OSes. I would be surprised if DCTM wasn't based on a pluggable architecture. If DCTM can run on Windows Server & Linux then supporting Vista and OSX shouldn't be difficult.
Yes, I realise that you'd still need a DB, app server, IDE etc. It would be nice if this could all be run natively within a desktop. Are you running DCTM natively on Vista - i.e. no VMware? If so, does it work out of the box?
Regards
Fair enough
I'm fairly sure that you wouldn't need to rewrite much to support some additional databases and desktop OSes. I would be surprised if DCTM wasn't based on a pluggable architecture.
You're probably right here but the longest and most costly would probably not be development, it would be QA.
If DCTM can run on Windows Server & Linux then supporting Vista and OSX shouldn't be difficult.
Actually, as I said in my previous post, it works fine on Vista even if officially, it is not a supported platform for the server. I doubt it will ever be officially supported not because of the difficulty of porting from Windows Server to Vista (No VMware) but just because it is NOT a server Operating System (without mentioning the QA process which can be very costly). For OSX, I can't say anything, I don't know it enough
Are you running DCTM natively on Vista - i.e. no VMware? If so, does it work out of the box?
Yes, no and yes. I have 5.3 SP6, 6.0 SP1 and 6.5 SP1 (on different boxes of course) and it all runs perfectly
PS: Don't forget, I don't work form EMC and am not talking on behalf of them, those are personal thoughts...
>Yes, no and yes. I have 5.3 SP6, 6.0 SP1 and 6.5 SP1 (on different boxes of course) and it all runs perfectly
Although I've worked with DCTM for years I never realised that you could run Content Server on XP (doh!). I tried installing CS with SQL Express last night and it worked fine so thanks for that. I'm hopeful that it will run significantly quicker than a VMware based setup.
What benefit could we get by supporting OSX.
I get the XP part, and yep I have installed CS on XP prof before and it works.
I do think MySQL should get supported especially since Oracle owns it now.
You could try using a differnt host OS for Vmware. If your host OS is windows, your losing a chunk of RAM there as well.
Dual boots work on laptops as well.
Good news -
Getting started and other resources now available on the developer site
Benefits of supporting OSX, just like that in a nutshell, I'd say that there are industries which are traditionnaly more Mac than Intel, such as architects, publishers and a most likely a lot of others. I guess I'd call that business opportunities missed for EMC ;-)
Indeed. Plenty of developers prefer OSX including some EMC employees (http://donr7n.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/composer-on-a-mac/). Even Alfresco have an installer for OSX...
I use Eclipse on OSX too, when I am not travelling. But that does not warrant creating a server installer for OSX.
Developers can develop on OSX, while the Content Server, Database exist on other platforms...Parallels anybody........
Architects and publishers would not want to install Documentum server on their desktops.
The question was why the need to create a Content Server installer for OSX.
Most OSX users could be clients but I was wondering for the need to have server on OSX.
Regards,
There is a server version of OSX and there are Mac Servers too. That's what I was thinking about when talking about architects and publishers. They might very well have such servers and therefore no Windowz box
my 2 cents
>The question was why the need to create a Content Server installer for OSX.
My point of view is that you don't get if you don't ask. An OSX version of CS is not absolutely necessary for me. It's a nice to have - the ability to install the whole stack on a desktop/laptop without virtualisation. Parallels is nice but native is nicer.
I appreciate that supporting multiple OSes is easier for pure Java solutions - a little more difficult for apps that are coded in C/C++.
Hi guys, our downloadable developer environment is now available. Check it out from our new community home page or from the link below.
- Karin
https://community.emc.com/docs/DOC-3062
Hi folks,
I just checked with engineering on OSX supported as Server - Not in the roadmap today.
